"All the Best Pickleball Players..."

Tell me if you’ve heard this in a lesson, video, or discussion…

“All of the professionals…”

…I don’t know about your experience with this phrase, but most of the times I’ve heard this, it’s a generalization and not an actual thing that all “pros” do universally. For example, I use a table tennis grip. There’s pros and cons, but it’s the only way I feel comfortable holding the paddle. My father plays with a racquetball grip, and it’s caused him no disadvantage.

I’ve been told time and time again the same thing:

“Use the continental grip, you can’t get better without it.”

While it is true that many and most players, including professionals, use a conventional grip, I’ve seen plenty of 4.5-5.0+ players that use different grips, including a table tennis grip like mine.

As of recently, my hand actually has gone from up at the neck of the paddle to near the middle of the handle (but still with my finger on the paddle face). However, I don’t feel like I could go to a conventional grip without a load of time and energy, and I don’t know if the transition would be more harmful than helpful.

Every serve is unique, but it has the same fundamentals in its swing. Couldn’t the same go for other shots with particular grips…?

Every swing in baseball is different, but it gets the job done in a way that suits the player who does it. Does the same not apply to pickleball…?

This issue has been roaming my mind recently, especially since I’ve been relentlessly playing Singles and due-in-part to my acquisition of my new Engage Elite Pro Maverick (a paddle with an extended handle and elongated paddle face). If any of you have any input, please let me know what your experience has been, what has worked for you, and anything else if you want to add it to the discussion.

Thanks in-advance, and hope you had a great 4th of July weekend!

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Let me just start by saying I love the way your mind works @22FrenchG!

Pickleball Paddle Penhold Grip
At first I thought you were saying that you held your pickleball paddle with the “penhold” table tennis grip… I think that might inhibit your ability to hit pickleball shots with the proper power :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But seriously, I must agree that I’ve heard the exact same sentiment that you’ve shared here. I typically go along with an idea if someone offers compelling proof that the idea they’re sharing is a better approach than what I’m currently doing. Then comes the hard part of making a change.

It’s definitely not true that “all the pros” use a continental grip when they play pickleball. But I do watch a lot of pro pickleball videos and it does seem like a majority of them don’t have a finger on the paddle face. Right, or wrong? A majority of people are right-handed. Does that make the left-handed people wrong? Nope!

Despite what we’ve both heard, I’m not sure I still believe that one has to have a continental grip to get to the next level or top pickleball skill levels.

When I started playing pickleball last year I naturally played with my right finger up on the paddle. One of the reasons was that my paddle handle was pretty short, so it felt natural.

After a few months, I did hear from several players, who were much better than me, that I’ll only go so far with the way I was gripping the paddle… and that the only way to get to the top levels is getting out of my bad habit and using the continental pickleball grip.

I took that advice. It was a hard few weeks as I transitioned to re-wiring my brain and getting my hand to do what I wanted it to do. I’m very comfortable with it now. But you know what’s interesting… I find that on certain hits, I’m moving my hand around and sometimes I find that at the end of the point, my finger found its way back up onto the pickleball paddle! :laughing:

You have a unique situation though, @22FrenchG… You’ve been working on your singles game. I would think, logically, that if you want to level up in that type of play, that having your hand lower, may give you more reach, with the paddle.

But if we’re to consider this argument of “all the pros…” Let’s take a look at one in specific…

Based on what “everyone” says… @tylerloong could never be one of the top pickleball players… he plays with his finger on the paddle! Oh my!! :flushed:

I don’t see anyone telling him that he needs to change :smirk:

I’ll work on moving my finger back to my old grip, on the paddle, if it meant I could play like Ty!


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Thanks for your input, Jordan…!

I actually went from a “traditional shake-hand” table tennis grip to a “long-handle shake-hand” table tennis grip. Those just sound confusing, so here’s what I mean in pictures:

Past:

Present:

Since my hand is now further down on the handle, I get the “reach” I was missing while still being comfortable by having my finger on the paddle. I’ll take a picture and show what that looks like in just a second, but do know that I personally don’t know how you could play pickleball with a pen-hold grip. I’d actually pay to see someone serve like that… Haha! :rofl:

And yes, Tyler Loong is one of the people I noticed who plays with a table tennis grip. Another player I noticed do something very interesting with his grip is “Coach David” from the Pickleball Diary. He actually serves with a table tennis grip, then will hit with a conventional or table tennis grip depending on the shot. Changing grips is something most commonly seen in ex-tennis players, so found that very interesting…!

Be right back with a picture demonstration, but thanks again for such a helpful reply!

Here you go…!

Selkirk (16" x 8")

As you can see, my finger is still on the paddle-face, so the paddle is still pointing in the same general direction it would be with my old table tennis grip, but the bottom of my hand is touching the pommel of my paddle. My hand is as far down as it can go. I actually started doing this grip accidentally, but it has worked miracles for me ever since.

Engage (16.5" x 7.5")

For the Maverick, it’s very interesting, but it actually has given me a lot of benefits. 1.) It makes for great, precise drives; 2.) I can get some great spin from it just like I could in table tennis; 3.) I have the extended reach the Maverick provides. The new grip has improved my playing with both paddles quite a bit, but it helped with the Maverick slightly more than with the Epic.

Just to clarify, I am not “recommending” that people try this grip, and I’m not saying that it’s on-par or rivals a continental grip, but it feels the most comfortable for me while having performed with no disadvantages. If you want to try this grip out, be my guest, I just can’t promise you’ll have the same results as me.

I am guilty of this finger problem but I find in my dinking game I have more control as I push my dinks around. I was told it was a bad habit but I notice many pros that use their finger. I say always do what feels right for you. What might be unorthodox to one feels right to another. I do move it on and off my paddle. Tyler is a great example of unorthodox working so sometimes I think it’s ok to do your thing just my 2 cents.

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